Uber vs Black Cabs

Uber vs Black Cabs

So, firstly, this isn’t a review that’s going to focus on ‘Uber employ rapists’. Whilst the topic of vetting of drivers is a critical one, its something that I understand Uber do take steps to ensure and ALL criminals will attempt to beat ALL systems and some will always get through ALL of those systems. I see that as a separate issue that is very serious but not part of the Tech that Uber bring to the market and the overall general customer experience which I’ve chosen to focus on.For the past few weeks, I’ve undertaken several rides with Uber in London. I’ve been a user of Black Cabs for a number of years so feel that I can objectively compare the two. Having tweeted about issues with Uber, the outcry from some cabbies has been huge and I’ve received a deluge of ‘nightmare’ journeys showing Uber routes around London which are just mind blowingly awful and clearly deceitful. How true any of these are I have no clue and the ‘Uber Urban Myth Machine’ does appear to churn very well.

I must also admit that my sample size for the review isn’t huge but I like to think that all of the journeys I took give a broad spread of off-peak, peak, long and short journeys and are representative. So, here goes.

THE TECH

PROs

My first understanding of what Uber is, as a service, was using them with Adam Christianson and Paul Wheatley at Macworld in San Francisco in 2014. I have to say I was impressed with the App, impressed with the ease of acquisition of the service and impressed with the whole experience but that experience was based in a city with a lot of wide streets in the main thoroughfares and we only took short journeys, apart from one to the airport. it was very obvious though that the Uber App is a ‘wow factor’ for sure.

It appeals to the basic instincts of all geeks. You get an ability to call for something using an app and then watch a graphic as the car moves through the local streets to your pickup point. It is overflowing with ‘Cool’. Add in the ability to have a charge sent straight to your Credit Card or PayPal (My Paypal account wouldn’t set up with the App) and an instant ‘Star-Based’ customer rating system for drivers and customers and it ticks an awful lot of boxes.

In comparison, the UK Black Cab system requires you to contact Transport for London (TFL) with any complaints about drivers, licensing or charges and whilst this is very good and ‘internet based’, its not an instant thing and the correct taking of badge numbers and lack of ‘evidence’ can make it a tough process.

There are also several apps in The App Stores for Black Cabs and these work pretty well but are more disjointed than the Uber experience and are ‘Foreign’ to tourists, many of whom will land with the Uber App already installed from their home town and ready to go. Meanwhile, local taxi services like Gentse taxi provide an alternative, offering a reliable and straightforward option for both residents and visitors in Gent.

CONs

So, how many of you haven’t been able to get a Black Cab in CENTRAL London for a prolonged period?

From my experience, its one of the easiest things in the world to do. I stick out my arm when I see an Orange light and then climb in. Sure, I get the ‘This is my cab’ argument once in a while and at peak times and if there is a Tube Strike, then things can get a little more sparse but generally I get a cab when ever I want to and to be honest, the Black Cab Apps aren’t much help over and above that.

The Uber App doesn’t work outside of the cities where there is an Uber service. I had an issue with a trip and started to try and complain when I got to my home in Birmingham but couldn’t. My Location wouldn’t show and none of my trips would show up either. In order to raise an issue, I had to resort to Twitter to initiate the complaint and then email to get my refund. Complaining within London was very easy however.

THE CHARGES

This cuts right to the heart of the issue.

Uber is expensive and VERY expensive at times in London. ‘More than Black Cabs’ you say? So why?

TRIPLE CHARGES

This is something which kicks in during peak demand for the service. Having watched this on the App it feels like a ‘time of day’ thing more than a ‘demand’ and ‘lack of cabs’ thing. When it was on, I called for an Uber knowing full well that Triple Charging was in place and a Car came instantly. To be honest I think that this is just a ‘BS’ charge and lots of drivers sit around waiting for a fare at triple rates as a lottery.

At these periods Uber can’t get close to Black Cabs on costs. The same black cab journey at the same time would have cost me half what I was quoted for the journey. The other issue is that at Peak Traffic times Uber’s ‘Meter’ ticks over rapidly and the drivers get themselves bogged down or take ridiculous routes.

At ‘Off-Peak’ Uber has the edge on pricing with a journey from Euston to Archway costing around £12 compared to £15 in a Black Cab. But by ‘off-peak’ I do mean late on weeknights or after 5pm on weekends.

THE ROUTES

OK, heres the rub. Uber drivers take the crapiest routes going at the wrong times

The problem is that they don’t have a good enough knowledge of the back streets in London. I’m sure that will come in time but they try and navigate The Capitol using a ‘Sat Nav’. Having driven in London for work on many occasions, I can tell you that a Sat Nav is bugger all use…even with traffic management functions. The tendency is to take you along main arterial routes when the majority of Black Cabs will seek to cross arterial roads and stick to the back streets.

The London Cabbie has to pass a test called ‘The Knowledge’ and they spend hours on small motorbikes driving the lesser know streets to build a knowledge of the best routes from A to B. This pays dividends at peak periods as nearly all Black Cabs will duck and dive through streets to avoid sitting with the meter running and not making progress. Uber drivers won’t do this and as a result, in heavy traffic, the Black Cab is invariably cheaper.

I think also there is a bit of a ‘no win’ for Uber drivers. As their pricing is based on Mileage and Time, should they divert to another route to save time, the costs are pretty much the same due to the higher distance, also if passengers complain and they have deviated from ‘The Uber Route’ then they end up losing out on the refund.

Definitely in Peak Periods when the pressure is on, I have seen greater expense using Uber over Black Cabs

CUSTOMER SERVICE

If you are talk about personal aspects, then I can’t tell the difference really.

The majority of London Cabbies I’ve had a ride with have been lovely affable chaps and always up for a good conversation, and whilst a lot more quiet, the Uber Drivers have been decent folk as well.

Uber take a slight lead in that with a large bag, the driver will get out to assist you whereas a London Black Cab has a driver that is a lot more ‘sealed in’, although they do get out if you are struggling. The access to London Cabs is also greater through the door which makes this less necessary.

I’ve had one Uber Driver who sat in an adjacent street telling me that I was in the wrong place right up until I cancelled the journey. All the other drivers have been fine.

The App for Uber provides for instant feedback on drivers and routes and as such is very convenient….BUT

REFUNDS

In all of the journeys I took, on 60% of those journeys I had to ask for a refund for overcharging on the estimated price by the Uber App. Now I know that what they provide is an estimate but on one journey quoted at £42, I ended up paying £72 and through a protracted exchange on twitter and email, I eventually got a refund of £27 but the cost of that was still way more expensive than a Black Cab would have been.

Uber seems to give refunds pretty easily, I’m guessing because they just don’t pay the driver. I got refunds in all the cases where I complained but the point is, that I shouldn’t have to complain. If you want to offer a good customer experience, then the service should ‘Just work’ at least 99% of the time and with Uber it doesn’t.

I’ve never had cause to complain about a Black Cab route or charges…Simple!

SUMMARY

I’ve put the Uber app away on the back page of all my apps in my iPhone.

To be honest, I didn’t see a benefit in the use of Uber in London and the increase in aggravation was higher in over half the journeys I took. The effort of submitting for refunds to my card and the fact that the App didn’t sync with my PayPal account or work correctly in Birmingham left a nasty taste that just isn’t there with Black Cabs.

Uber needs a LOT of work to improve its presence in London. It will always grab the geek because of the app but in time people will just return to what they can rely on.

In only a few short trips.

  • I didn’t save money
  • I didn’t save time
  • I ended up making work for myself

I have genuinely not found it to be a better experience over London Black Cabs…I’m Gone!

Ewen

Source: The British Tech Network

Uber Ordered to Discontinue Uberpop Service in Italy

Company has 15 days to stop the service after which it will be fined $22,000 a day

A taxi sign during a protest against Uber in Turin, Italy, in April. Uber said it would appeal a Milan court ruling on Tuesday that the company discontinue its Uberpop service, which uses drivers without commercial licenses, in all of Italy.
A taxi sign during a protest against Uber in Turin, Italy, in April.
Uber said it would appeal a Milan court ruling on Tuesday that the company discontinue its Uberpop service, which uses drivers without commercial licenses, in all of Italy. PHOTO: ZUMA PRESS

Uber Technologies Inc.’s legal woes in Europe continued as a Milan court Tuesday ordered that the car-hailing company’s low-cost Uberpop service be discontinued in all of Italy.

Uberpop, which uses drivers without commercial licenses, constitutes unfair competition for traditional taxi drivers, a Milan judge said in his ruling. Uber has 15 days to stop its Uberpop service in Italy after which the San Francisco-based company will be fined €20,000 ($22,000) a day. Uber also must post the ruling on its website.

Uber said it would appeal the court’s ruling and that Uberpop would continue to be available in Italy until the two-week window expires.

“This is an important victory, but it is just the first battle in what will be a very long fight to make sure the rules are followed in Italy,” said Pietro Gagliardi, a representative of Unione Artigiani’s taxi trade group. “Once this verdict is confirmed we will go after Uber Black.”

Uber Black, which uses drivers with professional licenses that have been vetted by the company, will continue to be available in Milan and Rome. Uber Black is legal in Italy, but the cars are supposed to be parked in designated places when they respond to requests from users, something that isn’t respected, according to Mr. Gagliardi.

The legal troubles facing Uber span Europe—particularly relating to Uberpop—and include cases in Germany, France and Spain. Uber has filed its own complaints with the European Commission in relation to cases in the three countries. The battles are crossing borders, with taxi drivers in different countries sometimes coordinating their protests.

“This ruling in Milan will create waves across Europe and will give our colleagues in other countries the strength to keep fighting,” said Mr. Gagliardi.

Source: The Wall Street Journal

Uber drivers slapped with more charges after ignoring orders

Uber drivers have been slapped with more charges for alleged breaches of the Taxi ActUber drivers have been slapped with more charges for alleged breaches of the Taxi Act

More charges have been laid against some 19 Perth drivers of the ride-sharing app Uber after they ignored orders to produce appropriate documents to show they could operate.

The Department of Transport confirmed to Fairfax Media on Monday that a further 19 prosecutions had been issued to motorists on May 6 – for allegedly “failing to comply with a lawful direction of an authorised officer”.

The Uber drivers’ actions are alleged to be in breach of the Taxi Act 1994.

Taxis clog Parliament House in protest against the Uber service.Taxis clog Parliament House in protest against the Uber service. Photo: James Mooney

“These prosecutions are a result of previously issued notices to produce orders,” a department spokeswoman said.

“As these matters are now before the courts, [the department] is not able to provide further comment.”

The Google-backed driver hire service burst onto the Perth market in May last year and appeared to catch the state government off guard.

At the time, Transport Minister Dean Nalder expressed his surprise about news of their launch in WA.

The smartphone app launched in Australia, first in Sydney in 2012, followed closely by Melbourne and Brisbane, as an alternative to the conventional taxi service.

Its appearance brought an instant reaction from state taxi companies, which responded with anti-Uber campaigns and industrial strike action.

In April, Perth taxi drivers took to the streets with hundreds of vehicles leading a convoy from the Perth Airport to Parliament to protest against the ride sharing service.

Several present at the protest told Fairfax Media their incomes had dropped by about 30 per cent and they were struggling to feed their families.

“There is a lot of anger out there and a lot of anxiety because this has taken quite a while and I think everybody would agree with that,” Taxi Industry Forum of WA chief executive Howard Lance told Radio 6PR.

“I have to confess that we were getting rather concerned, but our patience is being rewarded.

“We have been constantly telling our members that stuff has being done and I think they sort of felt it was going on ad nauseam, but we were quite pleased to hear this news yesterday.

“I’ve put it up on our Facebook page yesterday, I’ve spread the word amongst the drivers – generally it’s been well received. You get those who say it’s not enough, but it’s a very good start … 19 drivers, that’s not messing around.

“These people have been running throughout the world and the department here in WA wanted to get it right, so they took the time in a measured way.”

He said he believed the Uber drivers charged had been unable to produce appropriate records for department officials.

“Our records are provided for in our system … that’s one of the functions of a taxi dispatch service, and this mob won’t comply with those things because they don’t seem to think the law applies to them,” he said.

“My understanding is that – and I’ve heard this anecdotally – that they consider this serious enough to fly over one of their lawyers from the east.”

He said TIFWA had not been behind public taxi protests but had lobbied the Department of Transport for 12 months to act on Uber’s illegal operations.

An Uber spokeswoman provided a statement in response to the news of the 19 drivers being charged.

She did not respond to questions about if Uber planned to pay their drivers’ fines if they were prosecuted, or whether Uber had flown in a lawyer to contest the cases.

“We don’t believe anyone should be penalised for providing safe reliable rides in their own city,” she said.

“It is disappointing that the government decided to target everyday Perthians [sic] who are trying to earn additional income at a time when prices are going up for families everywhere.

“Uber has created over 1000 new jobs in Perth since July last year and opened up a safe and affordable transport option for tens of thousands of riders.”

Mr Lance estimated there were about 5000-6000 professional taxi drivers in Perth.

 

Source; WA Today

Boris Johnson warned: ‘Ban Uber or you will kill London’s black cab trade’

Numbers dwindling: Black cabs during a protest in London over smartphone app Uber (Picture: Getty)

Boris Johnson has been warned the death of London’s black cab trade will take place “on his watch” unless he revokes the licence of controversial car-booking app Uber.

During an angry question time at City Hall, the Mayor was heckled by taxi drivers and told by London Assembly members that he did not “have the guts” to stand up to the firm. Cabbies are calling on Transport for London to create a level playing field with Uber drivers.

Mr Johnson said he understood the “unfairness and anger” felt by the black cab drivers, adding that there was “nothing he would like to do more” than ban Uber.

But he admitted he was powerless to stop the company as it would just find a way to continue operating. “It would make no difference whatever. They’d go to a magistrate and be back on the roads tomorrow,” he said.

“Everywhere I go I see yellow lights on. I can see the business is dying and that grieves me. But it is very difficult to fight a huge change in consumer preference.

“You’ve also got to face the desire of millions of people in London to travel more cheaply.”

TfL has announced plans to cap the number of minicabs in London,  currently increasing by around 1,000 a month.

Mr Johnson has rejected claims that he has launched an “Uber witch hunt” by limiting the number of drivers on the capital’s roads. But in an extra- ordinary attack on the US firm, he said: “I don’t like their attitude, I don’t like how they went about trying to disrupt life in this city.”

Assembly members criticised the Mayor for a lack of enforcement on Uber and warned that the safety of  passengers could be put at risk.

Lib-Dem leader Caroline Pidgeon urged him to revoke the firm’s licence and said: “They are not just pushing the boundaries of legislation, they are breaking it.They must just be laughing at you, quite frankly, because you haven’t got the guts to enforce the legislation. If they take you to court, so what? TfL should stand up to them.”

Labour’s Val Shawcross added: “In the long run this is a race to the bottom that we’ve seen in too many industries. The black cab business is falling off a cliff.”

Black cab drivers, who plan to protest outside TfL’s Victoria offices on  Tuesday, stormed out of City Hall shouting at Mr Johnson: “You’re a joke, Boris” and “You’ve let us down.”

In a letter to the Mayor, Uber’s UK boss Jo Bertram said: “Capping the industry’s ability to grow would mean higher prices and less availability for the millions of people who rely on Uber and services like ours to get around.” She said new regulations should not hamper innovations which make  people’s lives easier.

ber hack claims probed… as black taxi drivers prepare to strike

An investigation into claims that Uber customers have fallen victim to hackers on the dark web has widened as one user told how his account had been used for a ride 3,000 miles away.

US authorities are said to be probing complaints of phantom Uber rides in the States after reports British users of the car-booking app had been charged for journeys they did not make.

After TV presenter Anthea Turner claimed her account was “hacked”, French photographer Antoine Doyen told the Standard he was having lunch in Montreal, Canada, when he received a message saying an Uber car was ready to pick him up — in west London.

Mr Doyen, 32, who lives in Paris, cancelled the cab but found it had recently been used for a £5.70 journey in the area. He removed his credit card from the account and “it seemed to stop”.

US website Motherboard has claimed 2,884 Uber accounts have been sold on the dark web market AlphaBay. But Uber says it has no knowledge of an FBI investigation and says it reports any fraudulent activity to US authorities.

It came as black cab drivers threatened to blockade Transport for London’s Victoria HQ today to force it to impose tougher rules on minicabs.